The Medef submitted contract new hires CNE

Union leaders meet today with employers to initiate "social deliberation", at the invitation of the Medef. What are the objectives of this meeting

The Act is in France 80 of the social space, the relations of labour are governed to 20 by collective agreements. We are the only ones in this case in Europe. The social partners must take new habits to get out of this French exception. The idea is to put on the table what brings together us and what can separate us, so that the positioning of each and on major social issues are clear before the elections. Three themes are already envisaged: the delivery flat unemployment insurance, employment contracts and the securing of career paths.

One of the objectives of the meeting is the tide, for example, leading to a shared diagnosis, or at least a common understanding of the key indicators of our economic and social life and thus avoid to jump figures figure in television debates.

The Medef submitted contract new hires (CNE). How can you address the subject of the contracts of employment with unions which continued to massively reject this device

We must see the reality of the figures. How can we withdraw from a contract that created 60,000 to 80,000 jobs in a year, roughly half of the creations of France positions Everyone knows that the relaxation of the Labour Code is a necessity. Today, in our society, it is much rare to be born, live, work and die in the same place. Therefore, kill the fear of hiring to promote employment, which is, inter alia, a generalization of the CNE to all companies. Similarly, concerning unemployment insurance, to accelerate the return to employment, we better define the valid offer of employment, which is listed in the Code of the work of a very imprecise manner. This is a subject on which the social partners have a higher than that of the State legitimacy.

The reform of the social dialogue finalized by the Government can invest the social space as you want

The President of the Republic has made a remarkable speech to the economic and social Council. The project of reform of the social dialogue, subject to the review and the future, is good to take. My regret is that it goes not to the end, with a revision of the Constitution that would make any place to collective bargaining. Is merely a law which can always be amended by another act. With regard to the legitimacy of agreements and trade union representativeness, the common position adopted in 2001 by seven social partners on eight was a monument of balance. Need to address these points with caution and not to make the issue of representativeness a prerequisite for the reform of the social dialogue.

Ségolène Royal has issued the idea of compulsory Union membership...

This proposal is not acceptable. Everyone has the right to unionize, but also not unionize. In this area of representativeness, should not be confused with political democracy and social democracy: what I know, business leaders and trade union representatives are not elected.

Nicolas Sarkozy has he reiterated last week the idea to vote the employees in the event of prolonged strike.

Anything that can go in the direction of the work is useful. In reality, this proposal seems to concern mainly public sector and, in this case, why not Private sector, there are very few strikes and they rarely last eight days. For a simple reason: companies and their employees who pay the damage.

The 2007 elections are approaching. The important topics you seem they enter the campaign

Everywhere, one speaks of the right to work, the place of the Act and the contract... The words "bargaining" and "contractual policy" return very often in the mouths of politicians of all colours: so much the better! So far, I have not heard speak of the French economy in the televised debate between Socialist candidates, while she is at the base of all creation of wealth and jobs. It is true that our competitiveness has been violently put to evil by the masterful error of 35 hours.

Thierry Breton comes to accuse the employers of "sleepiness". Must the Medef not more clearly out of wood And is it not already too late to publish your white paper

In my case, I need the feeling of doze. Laurence Parisot said that the Medef denounce any negative action for growth and employment. This is what needs to be done. The white paper will be highlight everything bride French companies. It should be placed under the triple sign of competitiveness, responsibility and solidarity.

What have you thought of the intervention television of Ségolène Royal, Dominique Strauss-Kahn and Laurent Fabius for Socialist investiture

No one understands how what was announced will be funded. In addition, the "little pink book" the PS Socialist project, Editor's note evokes the company and its leaders, in a case to denounce the "rogue patterns", in other to propose new criminal proceedings against the company. It is lamentable. It is incredible to

highlight such a political project, and I do not think that this serve growth and employment in our country.

Do you understand Ségolène Royal when it requires repayment of public aid to businesses who dismiss

When a company receives investment or job creation aid and it invests not or does not create any jobs, it is normal that asked the repayment of the aid. But it would be dishonest to suggest to the French that the reductions in social security contributions are aid to businesses, while they are only a means to prevent the cost of the work to increase.

That you based on the idea of increasing the minimum wage of 100 euros after the presidential election

The Insee has long explained that an increase in the minimum wage of 1 destroyed 0.5 of jobs paid at the SMIC. If it increased the minimum wage of 100 euros, this corresponds to an increase of 8 and this would result in the disappearance of 4 of these jobs. It is sad! It would be a poor measure for employment.

Yet, the question of purchasing power will not be evacuated campaign!

In the matter, there is the felt and there is the reality. If I believe the official indicators, the purchasing power of the French is much more that he never did so, more than 1 per year over the past three years, compared with 0.7 on average for 15 years. If the indicators are not good, let's talk in. But did not say on the basis of the only felt that purchasing power does not increase.

And on pensions Should be to reform, and if so, how

No one can question the Fillon reform and person will be. All the promises here would be demagogic.

On all these issues, has Nicolas Sarkozy already asked the good milestones

A priori, the Minister of State feels rather daring. We expect a written program. Several ideas are going in the right direction. For example, to work more to earn more. It is also important that the candidates are concerned about the "social"corner", i.e. the gap persisted between net salary received by the employee and the total cost of a job for the company. Il be well move progressively from funding of social welfare sitting on labour and employment funding of national solidarity, in particular for family policy, Medicare and the old age solidarity fund. There's no miracle to wait social VAT, but some additional points of VAT would participate in this solution. The Germans do, the Danes did so, and this offends anyone.

Do you share the bleak diagnosis that is sometimes made of the economic situation of the France

I am not part of the "déclinologues". This being so, I note that the France is passed in the ten years of the eighth to the tenth largest in Europe, with regard to GDP per capita. And that at the same time, the part of our country in the euro area exports fell from 17 to 15. This relative fall means we produce less wealth and jobs than our neighbors. It is once again the key to our competitiveness is asked question.

As the representative of the metallurgy at the Medef, are you particularly concerned the evolution of the industrial employment

When industrial jobs disappear, jobs are created in other sectors and in the service of industrial enterprises often. Is outsourcing. Moreover, it will not fight against relocation, which will be a subject of debate in 2007, by binding measures, but by improving the competitiveness of the French economy. In the social field, must be primarily addressed three issues: the cost of labour, labour regulation and labour training.

Mandatory levies have not declined during the quinquennium. Does this mean that the current level is correct

Not at all! The record of the Government is also mixed in this area. Whether taxation or public expenditure, the France still has about five points of GDP of difference with the other European countries. Specifically, across the France, this means that public authorities spend nearly 80 billion euros more than the neighbours. The aim should be to reduce a point per year gap. Companies in our countries should not run with cannonballs at the foot in a competition extended to the whole world.

Laurence Parisot, which was not the candidate of the industry, is the head of the Medef since more than fifteen months. Put its assets

First, a rejuvenation of the management structures, which is not negligible. The Medef is best seen by opinion, and the idea of social deliberation is a good idea so that Union-management meetings are a natural thing and not an exceptional event. Finally, many interprofessional collective agreements were concluded in recent months on the elderly, unemployment insurance, the intermittent, the diversity in the company, etc. The Medef plays its role.

You discuss the opinion... Do you understand his misunderstanding, sometimes, on the level of salaries for the leaders

There has been abuse. Avoid what may seem unbearable or is likely to alter our social cohesion. But it is mainly a question of personal ethics. In any case, this is not the role of the Act set wages.